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@Becfromthedead group

Oh yeah, I finally remembered a good example of something in the New Testament that’s something most Christians don’t follow.
1 Corinthians 11 talks about head coverings for women (during prayer at least) and also talks about how it is a disgrace for women to have short hair and for men to have long hair (because hair covering for me is shameful). Those of you who are Christian, do you follow the teachings of that particular verse? Probably not, but you do follow others that you believe make “more sense.” This is what I meant a while back when I talked about cherry-picking. I wasn’t only talking about Jewish ceremonial law. There’s New Testament examples too.
(Sorry to bring something up from pages ago, but I just remembered this.)

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@Pickles group

So I looked it up, and that verse is saying that if a woman doesn't cover her head, it's like she has her hair cut off, and if it's "shameful" to cut her hair off, she should cover her head (and I'm guessing back then it was). I didn't see anything about men not having long hair. Plus Sampson had long hair and was specifically told not to cut it

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@Kie group

bruh the bible was on some double-standard crap sometimes is what I'm gathering from reading all this tbh

@Fraust

I think for the most part, we don't practice old testament laws anymore unless they are restated in the new testament. Like certain things were sinful because of the culture back then. God's not gonna strike you down for getting a tattoo or wearing clothes made with two different fabrics

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@Becfromthedead group

Oof, I looked at another translation. The wording in the first one was bad and made it sound like that. My b. However, point still stands. I am sure there are New Testament things that aren’t followed. People of all religions cherry pick some. There’s no changing my mind on that one.

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@Kie group

Oof, I looked at another translation. The wording in the first one was bad and made it sound like that. My b. However, point still stands. I am sure there are New Testament things that aren’t followed. People of all religions cherry pick some. There’s no changing my mind on that one.

People definitely do cherry-pick when it comes to what they want to follow. Doesn't even have to be religion-people will follow whatever rules they feel obligated to follow no matter what it pertains to.

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@Pickles group

True, but that doesn't make them right

@Fraust

bruh the bible was on some double-standard crap sometimes is what I'm gathering from reading all this tbh

Again, the culture was different back then. Women basically weren't shit until the 1900's. That's kind of just how it is?? There were also a lot of weird laws that were important to the culture back then, but aren't now. Certain things (like the tattoo thing) had connections to demonic things or specific cults, which was why they weren't allowed (to avoid being associated with bad vibes ig).

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@Becfromthedead group

I know, but I think Dom was arguing against my cherry picking argument. And brought up Old Testament Jewish law which is not what I was referring to. So that’s why I bring it back up.

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@StarryWolfy flash_on

bruh the bible was on some double-standard crap sometimes is what I'm gathering from reading all this tbh

I think a lot of the double standardness is because we mix up the old testament law and the new testament.
When Jesus created the new covenant, he basically said that the old testament laws we're no longer the standard of living.
One good example of this is when one of Jesus disciples, (after Jesus left…) Was approached with creatures that we're considered unfit for consumption, and was told to eat his fill.
(Not sure which disciple, or where, but its new testament for sure)
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Now, I'm NOT saying that the old testament laws are good rules to follow, (ten commandments for example)
But at the same time I have to point out something else. If you look through (it's in either Expdus, Leviticus, Duteronmy, Or Numbers) but there were a whole bunch of sacrifices you had to make any time to broke the commandments, or violated other restrictions.
(Again back to my mom's teachings)
I was taught that this bartering of sacrifices, it was kinda impossible to live up to… And it is even more so today.
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Other thing I wanna point out, when Jesus died on the cross, one of the really key things that happened was that the veil in the temple, the one the concealed gods glory from the people? It ripped in two when Jesus died.
Jesus death and the good news is supposed to be about not having to live up to impossible standards, it's about bridging the divide between humanity and it's creator…
At least… That's what I was raised to believe.

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@Kie group

Honestly, respect to y'all religious people. I can barely keep up with half of what is being said now. You guys are pretty cool for being able to remember and stick to your beliefs!

@Fraust

For many of us, our parents have forced us to attend church since we were wee youngins
It gets stuck :)

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@Kie group

My parents aren't religious but forced me to go to a religious private school for a while. No matter how much they tried to make me listen I wouldn't. I think there's a sort of willingness that goes along with it.

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@StarryWolfy flash_on

Or we've had Bible stories drilled in from day one in the form of Bible studies and biblical curriculum thanks to homeschooling.

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hey guys sorry if im interrupting a conversation but i have a question if someone wants to help me out–
so i was not raised with a certain religion and have little knowledge about this kind of stuff but i was wondering how like praying works? something in my life is going on that i thought maybe i could pray about to try to help one of my friends stay safe and healthy but i have no idea if there's any specifics to praying or if i'm even allowed to do that if i'm not really religious??

@Fraust

I suppose so
I find church rather boring most of the time, but it's surprising how much information you retain
Also, I go to a private christian school with a Bible class and all christian staff, so it's drilled into my head there too

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@Becfromthedead group

No kidding. Not religious, but I was in the Methodist Church until I was like 15 or 16. (Sometimes still go to services so my family doesn’t chew me out.) Plus I took this cool college course on Abrahamic religions, so I’ve learned a lot more about history and interpretation.

@Fraust

hey guys sorry if im interrupting a conversation but i have a question if someone wants to help me out–
so i was not raised with a certain religion and have little knowledge about this kind of stuff but i was wondering how like praying works? something in my life is going on that i thought maybe i could pray about to try to help one of my friends stay safe and healthy but i have no idea if there's any specifics to praying or if i'm even allowed to do that if i'm not really religious??

I mean, simply put, I'd say praying is talking to God. It's not as complicated as you'd think. Since you've never done it before and I'm socially awkward and bad at talking, here's a very basic premise

"Hey God, I know we've never spoken before, but I'm really feeling led to pray for help for my friend. I'm really worried about them during this whole pandemic thing and just wanted to ask for some help on keeping them safe"

By no means do you have to follow that, it's just a suggestion, and I'm not expert

Hope this helps :)

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@StarryWolfy flash_on

I was homeschooled up till a couple years ago, and Bible studies was the first subject every day. EVERY DAY.
I would get so bored of it I'd try to skip then end up spending an entire day catching up.

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@StarryWolfy flash_on

hey guys sorry if im interrupting a conversation but i have a question if someone wants to help me out–
so i was not raised with a certain religion and have little knowledge about this kind of stuff but i was wondering how like praying works? something in my life is going on that i thought maybe i could pray about to try to help one of my friends stay safe and healthy but i have no idea if there's any specifics to praying or if i'm even allowed to do that if i'm not really religious??

Anyone can pray, it's basically just a conversation between you and God, there's no requirements really, and if anyone says otherwise then they have issues….

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hey guys sorry if im interrupting a conversation but i have a question if someone wants to help me out–
so i was not raised with a certain religion and have little knowledge about this kind of stuff but i was wondering how like praying works? something in my life is going on that i thought maybe i could pray about to try to help one of my friends stay safe and healthy but i have no idea if there's any specifics to praying or if i'm even allowed to do that if i'm not really religious??

I mean, simply put, I'd say praying is talking to God. It's not as complicated as you'd think. Since you've never done it before and I'm socially awkward and bad at talking, here's a very basic premise

"Hey God, I know we've never spoken before, but I'm really feeling led to pray for help for my friend. I'm really worried about them during this whole pandemic thing and just wanted to ask for some help on keeping them safe"

By no means do you have to follow that, it's just a suggestion, and I'm not expert

Hope this helps :)

hm yeah, that sounds good, thank you!!

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@Pickles group

hey guys sorry if im interrupting a conversation but i have a question if someone wants to help me out–
so i was not raised with a certain religion and have little knowledge about this kind of stuff but i was wondering how like praying works? something in my life is going on that i thought maybe i could pray about to try to help one of my friends stay safe and healthy but i have no idea if there's any specifics to praying or if i'm even allowed to do that if i'm not really religious??

There's not really much to it. And you don't have to be religious. I don't think He really cares. Well I mean He does but not in a "I'm going to strike you down because you don't believe and you're trying to make contact with me" sort of way. Does that make sense?

@Fraust

No problem!

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hey guys sorry if im interrupting a conversation but i have a question if someone wants to help me out–
so i was not raised with a certain religion and have little knowledge about this kind of stuff but i was wondering how like praying works? something in my life is going on that i thought maybe i could pray about to try to help one of my friends stay safe and healthy but i have no idea if there's any specifics to praying or if i'm even allowed to do that if i'm not really religious??

Anyone can pray, it's basically just a conversation between you and God, there's no requirements really, and if anyone says otherwise then they have issues….

cool, thanks!

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hey guys sorry if im interrupting a conversation but i have a question if someone wants to help me out–
so i was not raised with a certain religion and have little knowledge about this kind of stuff but i was wondering how like praying works? something in my life is going on that i thought maybe i could pray about to try to help one of my friends stay safe and healthy but i have no idea if there's any specifics to praying or if i'm even allowed to do that if i'm not really religious??

There's not really much to it. And you don't have to be religious. I don't think He really cares. Well I mean He does but not in a "I'm going to strike you down because you don't believe and you're trying to make contact with me" sort of way. Does that make sense?

yeah, that makes sense. it's not necessarily that i don't believe, really i don't know what i believe because i've never really been given any resources to figure it out. thanks for your help!

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DUDE the whole bible is so fucking sexist. So much of it is like "????????" like it basically says that women aren't allowed to be church leaders and shit. So stupid

Sorry, kids. This stuff isn't allowed here. Questioning is good. Major disrespect is not.

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Eucharist = communion

That! Yes, communion has happened at every church I've been to… Mennonite, Pentacostal, Lutheran, (I think even Evangelical is one my family has gone to)
The one really Iconic communion thing I remember is when they did washing of feet as part of communion, (that was in a Mennonite church back when I was ten)

I meant communion as the Body of Christ. As in eating his flesh. (Because about Mennonites being like Catholics.)

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Question about the homosexuality thing: Why do Christians condemn the Entire LGBTQ community, when the only part of it that is frowned upon in the bible is gay sex? Not gay love, just sex?? So why do most Christian people not like trans or other LGBTQ folk?

Well, to be fair, the Aces are left alone. And to answer your question, probably because one springs out of the other in logical order. And also we can like and love them still.

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Just gonna steal from my mom here on the reasoning…
The way the verse and it's meaning were explained to me, is that it basically means, the the woman will desire to care and nurture her husband, but the man in the relationship will go for power and control in the relationship.
That in and of itself results in an unbalanced relationship, and can turn abusive, disrespectful, and it's where objectification comes from too…
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Now I could very well be wrong, or at least way off.. But that's what I was taught, and I'm willing to listen to other opinions.

I think this means (and I may be off) that because of The Fall, humans will be selfish and not have perfect equal relationships as they should.

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So why wouldn't they choose to fabricate their story in a way that would make them more reliable (by having MEN see him and tell everyone)?

A lot of that in the Bible. Especially the Apostles being super clueless all the time when Jesus was speaking plainly. And then them all running away, all doubting, Peter who became the leader of the church betraying Jesus three times. It doesn't make sense that this was faked for any profit. (Not to mention all the Apostles but John died horrible deaths for their faith.)