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Major Deities
Dagda was chief of the Irish Tuatha dé Danann, god of life and death, agriculture and fertility. A learned advisor and master of druidic magic, he possessed a cauldron that provided plenty, a massive club that granted life or death, and an enchanted harp that ordered the seasons.
Morrigan The fearful Phantom Queen known as Morrígan was the Irish goddess of death, discord, and war. She was portrayed both as a single entity and as three sisters who could issue terrifying prophecy and foretell the deaths of warriors and kings.
Lugh of the Long Arm was a young Irish god who sought revenge for his father’s unjust death. A master of all skills, he lead the Tuatha dé Danann to victory against the Fomorians. His death marked the decline of his tribe’s presence in Ireland.
Cu Chulainn The great hero of the Ulster Cycle, was a man of great passions whose skills were rarely matched in battle. A proud warrior, he could fight back hordes of enemies with unmatched rage.
Danu was the mysterious Celtic mother goddess and ancestor of the Irish Tuatha dé Danann. It was from her that the tribe took its name. Little is known about Danu, though she may have some connection to the Danube River. Other theories hold that she was a wind or earth goddess that looked after her nomadic tribe.
Cernunnos The Horned God was a mysterious Gaelic deity associated with the woodlands. Though little is known about Cernunnos’ role in Celtic mythology, folklorists and neopagans have constructed a new mythic tradition around his image.
Brigid the Exalted One, was the Irish goddess of spring, fertility, and life. She reigned over Imbolc, a winter holiday that marked the beginning of the Irish year. Tales of Brigid were told in every corner of Ireland, and aspects of her lived on in the figure of St. Brigid of Kildare.
Aengus was the chief poet of the Tuatha dé Danann and son of the Dagda. His music and poetry charmed women, inspired kings, and won his enemies’ property from under their noses. He was later charmed himself by Caer Ibormeith, the woman of his dreams.
Cailleach was a mysterious ancient figure in Scottish and Irish lore. In addition to being the goddess of winter and old age, she was a trickster who assisted those dwelling in the harsh winters of the north.
(Gwydion) fab Dôn was a magician in the Mabinogi, an advisor and father figure to his nephew Lleu whose magic often helped those around him but frequently had unintended consequences in the long-term.
Medb was the Queen of Connacht in the Ulster Cycle, whose passions and ambition put her well above most men in Ireland. She clashed with King Conchobar of Ulster, grandfather of Cúchulain.
Badb the Battle-Crow was one of the three sisters of Morrígan, Irish goddess of war and death, who sowed fear and discord in combat and could turn the tide of battle.
Nuada of the Silver-Hand was the first King of the Tuatha dé Danann, well liked and wise, yet he was forced to give up the throne after he lost his hand. His successor, however, was so unjust that a silver hand was made for him, so he could retake the throne.
Minor Deities
Herne the Hunter A fearful figure in British folklore, Herne the Hunter was a phantom that hunted and killed people just for the fun of it.
Taranis was the pan-Celtic god of thunder, a booming deity whose club represented his strength and whose other symbol, the wheel, represented not just the speed of storms but the speed of his warriors in battle.
Taliesin was known as the great Chief of Bards. Taliesin was a poet, historian, and strategist of the British Isles. Famed for his beauty, as well as his powers of poetry and prophecy, the mythic Taliesin was based on a 6th century historical figure of the same name. He served many kings, including the legendary king Arthur.
Neit was the Irish god of war, a discerning deity who joined the Tuatha dé Danann to fight his own kin, the Fomorian, at the ferocious Second Battle of Moytura.
@Owen, I did this just for ya. I had some free time. Good luck!)

@berlioz

Oh my gods (hah) thank you SO much! I'm a bit behind, still on the merrow story. I'll catch up soon!

No problem! There's more out there than that, but I have to go find them. There somewhere in the archives. I'll let you know when I find them!

@berlioz

It might take another day, though, Father's Day Festivities are keeping me offline. But really dude, I am eternally grateful. You're like the village elder of Notebook, and I love learning these about these stories and myths.

Well that's nice to know that I'm like a village Elder. I'll always have a story ready! Just ask whenever you want to hear them!

@berlioz

The merrow story was pretty neat. I have two questions-

  1. It describes Coomara as having a fishtail for legs, if this is so, how can he walk on the dry sea floor and dance in Jack's house? Do the caps give them that ability too?
  2. Jack calls the merrow "your honour" a lot. Is this because humans revere merrows, or is it just common formality?
@berlioz

Right when that Sprite said “whoever comes to us, must drink with us!”, my playlist went from a vibey song to a dark and broody song, so that was fitting.

@berlioz

Imagine your mom back then calling you an oaf and muttering that she always knew you weren't her real child.
That'd suck lmao.

@ElderGod-Icefire

Imagine your mom back then calling you an oaf and muttering that she always knew you weren't her real child.
That'd suck lmao.

Imagine being a younger sibling and your older siblings teasing you by going "You're a changeling, you're a changeling" or something lmao

@berlioz

So is the Tuatha dé Danann like a super-tribe?

@berlioz

And are any of the deities related to each other? Besides Aengus being Dagda's son. It seems like Danu and Dagda would be a couple or something. And if Dagda was the chief, but Nuada was the first king, what's the difference? Is chief a step above?

I went to go get pizza for a solid and I come back to this? 😂 Let me get started real quick.

@berlioz

Imagine your mom back then calling you an oaf and muttering that she always knew you weren't her real child.
That'd suck lmao.

Imagine being a younger sibling and your older siblings teasing you by going "You're a changeling, you're a changeling" or something lmao

and then they repel you with fire

The merrow story was pretty neat. I have two questions-

  1. It describes Coomara as having a fishtail for legs, if this is so, how can he walk on the dry sea floor and dance in Jack's house? Do the caps give them that ability too?
  2. Jack calls the merrow "your honour" a lot. Is this because humans revere merrows, or is it just common formality?
  1. Okay all I can say is that the cap is like their transformation thing. Like it turns them into a human with some weird characteristics. Or in other stories, some weird magic from the cap gives them the ability to walk on their tail, and it's just so confusing, just think of it as how you want. No one really cares, unless you're in your 80's telling grandkids.
  2. Common formality. Everyone is really nice. But in this story, it's both because od the fact that Coo served Jack's grandfater, and family is a big deal over there.

Right when that Sprite said “whoever comes to us, must drink with us!”, my playlist went from a vibey song to a dark and broody song, so that was fitting.

Nice! That happens a lot whem I'm listening to music, so I just roll with it now and let whatever is messing with me, just mess with me.

@berlioz
  1. Okay all I can say is that the cap is like their transformation thing. Like it turns them into a human with some weird characteristics. Or in other stories, some weird magic from the cap gives them the ability to walk on their tail, and it's just so confusing, just think of it as how you want. No one really cares, unless you're in your 80's telling grandkids.
  2. Common formality. Everyone is really nice. But in this story, it's both because od the fact that Coo served Jack's grandfater, and family is a big deal over there.

Nice

So is the Tuatha dé Danann like a super-tribe?

Yes. It's basically a race of demi-god children. Tolkein actually used this race for the inspiration for Aragorn's people, the Dúnedain. They are all very strong and powerful. Masters of their crafts of war, and weaponry.

@berlioz

Cool cool

And are any of the deities related to each other? Besides Aengus being Dagda's son. It seems like Danu and Dagda would be a couple or something. And if Dagda was the chief, but Nuada was the first king, what's the difference? Is chief a step above?

Okay, yes. Most of than are related, but going through that family tree, now that's a doozey. And Dagda is like the all father. Think of him as like Cronous in Greek Mythology, and Nuada as Zeus. But there was no fighting, and I can't remember if they are related or not. I'd have to go look again…

@berlioz

Ahh ok

It's just a big mess. This is like the only actual thing where I'm trying to find a good family tree online bc it's a hassle to explain.

https://images.app.goo.gl/xf8REgM2BrVHYQgM8
(Danu is the all father, I made a mistake, but he's like Uranus in Greek Mythology. Then there's Dagda, who's like Cronous, and then there's Nuada, the Zeus ig. )

And Dagda and Nuada are brothers. I looked at that wonderful family tree.

@berlioz

What's the fomorian/danann thing? Did Danu and her son Dagda really have Ogma together cuz that's nasty or are they like different accounts of the same myth?

@berlioz

And with her son Dian Cécht?

What's the fomorian/danann thing? Did Danu and her son Dagda really have Ogma together cuz that's nasty or are they like different accounts of the same myth?

Listen it's just like the Greeks. Lots of incest. Just roll with it at this point.
Fomorian
They are enemies of Ireland's first settlers and opponents of the Tuatha Dé Danann, the other supernatural race in Irish mythology.
Danann
The Tuath Dé Danann, also known by the earlier name Tuath Dé, are a supernatural race in Irish mythology.
So the Danann and the Fomorian are enemies. Always fighting.

And with her son Dian Cécht?

Yes. Lots of incest. It explains the goat horns and mermaid tails and wings in the family tree. Roll with it. It's just really weird.

@berlioz

Ahhh ok interesting. So we're all team Danann, cuz they're the good guys (well, as far as war and such goes)?

Correct!

@berlioz

Kelpies are pretty scary, ngl. Can we hear the one about the kelpie who falls in love with a human?