Debate. Debate. Debate.

Wow that is weirdly accurate

Children is an interesting debate topic.

I recently read somewhere that newer generations where choosing careers and self focused life styles over having children and families. How do ya'll feel about that? Views on having children?

Discuss.

I want kids, no question about it at this point, but I do think it'll come once the career I want is established and/or I feel ready juts because it'd be easier for the family if they're born in stable conditions

No children… Never…

im alone in my plans then
Out of curiosity, why not?

I want my own brood. But eventually I'd like to adopt too.

I do think that it is smarter to have a career and a healthy relationship (not necessarily marriage) before committing to having children. You want to be able to provide for them, and kids take a lot of planning, money, commitment, patience, and effort.

I do think that it is smarter to have a career and a healthy relationship (not necessarily marriage) before committing to having children. You want to be able to provide for them, and kids take a lot of planning, money, commitment, patience, and effort.

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oh hey unpopular eris opinion: I think there should be a licence to have children and that people should be on semi-permanent forms of birth control until they pass the licence test and have a healthy partner.

I see where you're coming from. What kind of test do you think to pass said licence?

Hmmmm. I've never really thought about it in depth before, but definitely a test for intelligence.
Maybe have them take care of a child for a week or so to see if it's what they really want and/or if they can handle it.
Drug test for sure.
Criminal background check focusing on violence on others including sexual.

Stuff like that

Putting something like that in place would definitely change a lot of things though I couldn't tell you if it would be good or not

It already does that.
Imagine all the lives that wouldn't be ruined because drug addicts, pedophiles, criminals, less than intelligent people Didn't have children. Imagine how the number of children in foster care would decrease.
If you are one to hurt a child, then you do not deserve the right to have one.

(I had accidentally unfollowed this discussion so I missed some stuff, sorry for the late responses and everything-)

Out of curiosity, why not?

Well, I dunno, I just really don't like the thought of children. I kinda want to go out and see the world in all its beauty, the arts, languages, foods, cultures- without having to stress over extra travel costs, missing teddy bears, or the expiration dates on mashed baby food.
I've spent enough time stuck in a house in the middle of nowhere watching over screaming 4-year-olds and being unable to socialize to know that it's not my thing.
Not to mention I would be the world's worst mother

Don't get me wrong, babies are wonderful and can bring a lot of joy to someone's life, I just don't want any of my own.

Now, baby animals, on the other hand, are an entirely different story-

oh hey unpopular eris opinion: I think there should be a license to have children and that people should be on semi-permanent forms of birth control until they pass the license test and have a healthy partner.

(I don't really have an opinion so I'll probably stay silent here)

The test could fail, in a lot of ways. And it isn't always going to work, without giving the government access to every aspect of everyone's lives. At the same time, something like that should definitely exist, just maybe not in the form of a test.

I think thats a really good idea Eris. It would help with overpopulation, cut down the number of kids in foster care, and ensure parents have the capacity to care for a child.
I think the test should be like when a person is looking to adopt, or when a parent is trying to get custody rights for their child (making sure they have a stable job, home, etc). Maybe like a couples counselor can meet with the prospective parents for a session to make sure they'd be . . . stable (for lack of a better word)?

exactly! There are all these limitations for 'buying' (for lack of a better term) a child but nothing for having one?? It's a bizarre double standard that needs to be rectified.

The test could fail, in a lot of ways. And it isn't always going to work, without giving the government access to every aspect of everyone's lives. At the same time, something like that should definitely exist, just maybe not in the form of a test.

The government already does have the ability access to all of that. They just cannot (legally) access it without our consent. If one were to give it to them, say to apply to have/gain a child they would be able to properly test the validity of the person.

Would the creeps in the world want to have kids? Like, obviously some of them have kids already. But if there was a decent testing system and, like, permits for having kids, would they go to all the trouble? And would it even be possible to get some kind of required birth control to everyone who didn't have a special permit to have/raise kids?