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There is only one true Drag Queen and that is Frank N Furter.
This has been a PSA
Debate. Debate. Debate.
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Drag is weird because in one way it's a kind of art form like acting and a culture. In the other way, it's kinda fetishized and has made the LGBTQ+ community into a joke.
Wasn't aware of drag being a controversial topic? It's a form of self expression that literally isn't harming anyone. Why would it be harmful to the LGBT community?
I thought the same thing. Then I ran across some research. It turns out it is the sexist equivalent of blackface. Back in the day it was a comedic tool that was used to demean women. In fact, they would go hand in hand with traveling entertainers.
Plus of course the movements for young children to get into it and then people are shocked when pedos love it.
Have y'all ever seen that meme from its always sunny
"that doesn't sound right but i dont know enough about (insert topic here) to refute it"
That's me right now lol
Lol I feel.
Before I discovered this I actually had no problems with it. Not my thing, but personally freedom. Of course I wouldn’t try to make someone stop just because it was offensive. But I now have no support for it.
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But there's also a bunch of different kinds of drag. I think the insulting one is high drag which really accentuates female feature like hair, chest, butt in a comedic manner. Fishy drag is also considered offensive because it's playing with the idea of actually looking like a woman while completely identifying as male. I see nothing wrong with play drag which is about entertainment or drag that's just meant to challenge our ideas of gender (can't remember the name for it).
But can we all agree that child drag needs to stop?
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honestly, i didn't know that was a thing and I hate it
Yeah. It’s great.
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Honestly all child beauty pagents should be stopped, all it does it feed insecurity, arrogance, and pedos.
The end of that was perfect.
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But like…
What's wrong with normal drag?
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I find nothing offensive about drag? Actually most women don't see it as 'blackface' for women at all?
It can get a little over the top for my taste but I mean that's kind of the point. Its supposed to be wild and fun. There's a major line between Drag and Trans. Many men that do Drag don't identify as women at all, they just like having this wild alter ego. I have a friend that does drag and is very comfortable with his gender and what not. Their actors having fun. I see no issue with it.
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I agree 100% with FaeEris.
As a Black woman, IMO drag is not AT ALL comparable to blackface…
I’m not saying that it is today. (Though some people believe it to be.) But it used to be.
If it were, then the cultural significance would still be there…I mean most people know blackface is not okay, why would drag (being, according to you, comparable to blackface) be okay now?
Who knows? There are some that are still very offended by it. But I think people see it as part of a movement they subscribe to and have forgotten its history and see it only as harmless play.
Honestly, if it were that offensive, I don't think people would have forgotten… the comparison to blackface just feels icky to me. Blackface was, and is, so, so terrible. Drag just…isn't.
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People see it as offensive because they correlate it with the LGBT community.
Where yes there is a lot of over lap between the two (Le Goddess Ru Paul) it should be seen as separate. The basis for the hatred of Drag is that is is 'gay' for a man to dress as a woman.
That's what I always assumed, because my parents hate drag for "turning men gay" or "furthering some agenda". Drag seems innocuous to me, besides obviously kids in drag (which is the same as pageants tbh).
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Ohhhh man the "Gay Agenda"
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So terrifying
Much scare
but iT’LL TURN THE FROGS GAYYYYY
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….ahem
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Has anyone read the shadow and bone trilogy and does anyone wanna debate about it?
Cause I’ve seen a lot of posts on instagram recently debating whether or not Mal is a shitbag and I wanna (respectfully) argue with someone about it
Listen, Mal may not be perfect, but he's sure as hell better for Alina than the Darkling and his development in Ruin and Rising is fantastic.
My opinion could probably be swayed as I'm only about halfway through the second book but Mal seems…. ok? It does really bug me how he seems to give Alina a hard time whenever she starts spending time with another guy but for some reason it's ok for him to do the same.
I feel like calling him a shitbag is maybe a little extreme, although as I mentioned I'm not done with the series yet. I've heard a lot of people say they don't like him, and while I'm not exactly his #1 fan or anything, I feel like I've read worse characters. Unless he does something absolutely terrible in the latter half of the 2nd book or the 3rd book, I feel like so far people are making him out to be worse than he actually is.