Don't Be Suspicious

Snape was a terrible person and no one can convince me otherwise no matter how they argue it. He was a good character and an important character but he sucked as a person. My friend and I are arguing debating this right now and I cannot see Snape as a good person.
i realize this is rather random but seeing as how this is the rudeness chat, i don't really care

Not me. Snape can fuck himself with a broom for all I care.

Snape can bend over and take my boot right up his whole fucking ass

he was mean to a bunch of kids because he had a weird crush on his childhood bestfriend.

So one of the other arguments is that Snape was ultimately trying to help Harry (and even Draco too) by not becoming too close to him so as not to cause suspicion while still watching over him. He and Dumbledore did whatever they could to keep Draco from performing an unforgivable curse which he'd regret and let Draco have a normalish life after.
Not my argument. These are my friend's words

Another thing that was said was that Snape wanted to be a good person and he tried to be but he ultimately couldn't, because sometimes no matter how hard you try, you still fail.
Once again. I'm not taking credit for my friend's words

alright last words on the matter:

Please respect my rules. I put them in place for a reason.
I saw a little hostility on the pages before that has been going on for sometime, which is great because that is the reason that I created this chat BUT things are starting to become toxic and harmful to those that are just trying to make it stop. If this continues with any users I will ask you to leave the chat for good. (we cannot ban people from the chats yet, but I feel the update coming and I will be sure to utilize it, but for the mean time respect that I asked you to leave gracefully.)

Thank you.

On topic:

Snap and Dumbledore are abusers and no one can convince me otherwise. Harry was lucky that he turned out stronger than their influence.

Okay, apparently what I did wasn't right. Cool. But seriously, can we try to make it a little less like I'm such a horrible person? I'm not and I know that.

Okay, apparently what I did wasn't right. Cool. But seriously, can we try to make it a little less like I'm such a horrible person? I'm not and I know that.

It's called apologizing, Miriam.

On topic:

Snap and Dumbledore are abusers and no one can convince me otherwise. Harry was lucky that he turned out stronger than their influence.

Yes. Tell why Dumbledore was bad. Maybe I can defend.

He knew that Harry was in a potentially abusive house yet did nothing about it till Harry was of use to him.

Dumbledore raised an eleven year old to die. He kept secrets that got people killed or injured, and instead of even saying 'hey, I promise I'll tell you when you need to know, just trust me', he was such a shady dude about it. All of his scenes in the books are full of plotting and shit and lying, avoiding telling the main characters things that would have made everything so much easier, and I hate Dumbledore with all my heart.

That awkward moment when you're the only person alive who's never read Harry Potter

My mom recently allowed us to, however, my little brothers are currently reading it so I'm waiting until they finish

Harry could have stayed with anyone! Like Remus, you know, one of his father's best friends. And maybe they would have found the horcruxes quicker if Dumbledore wasn't keeping a million and one secrets from the children who had devoted themselves to fighting Moldymort

Uh I'll need a tutorial or something. I don't know how

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(just without the spaces)

Let's put all this in spoilers.

(Thank you!)