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Percy Jackson isn't that great ya'll

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I only liked the first series. Annabeth is my favorite character. Percy and Grover were poorly used in HoO, Jason is super overpowered and annoying, Piper was bland, Leo felt like an attempt to have another Percy but it fell flat, Hazel is too young for Frank, and the Greek/Roman gods thing was confusing. I never read the Kane Chronicles, liked Magnus Chase okay but it felt a little bland. Also Alex was a great concept that was very poorly executed. The best thing about Trials of Apollo is that it killed one of the seven, Apollo is super grating and the series should have focused on Meg.

Yes. Thank you. Kane Chronicles are pretty good. (The part with Frank turning into a 'crazy dolphin' is hilarious though. That's one the good things from HOO.)

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The best thing about Trials of Apollo is that it killed one of the seven

how can you say that? I'm legitimately crying over here.

not trying to guilt trip y'all or anything, but…

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Woah wtf. Crying with you Three Ravens

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Some people are getting old of the whole 'they all survived and lived happily ever after.'

Plus, it felt like Riordan was trying to hard with HoO and ToA.

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Yeah. Like it's fine if you like them, but I think he could've done a better job developing the characters and series… It just looked like he was getting pressured by deadlines.

Am I the only one that felt like Solangelo came out of nowhere?

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Nope.

Thank the gods.

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And everyone loves Nico and backs him up on everything and acts like Percy was in the wrong for doing what he did… But? Percy didn't owe him anything after Nico betrayed him? And it wasn't Percy's fault Bianca died and any other could've died. Plus there a few years apart I'm thinking Percy wouldn't want to settle with someone younger than him.

I read the part where Nico says he had a crush on Percy and I just stopped, put the book down, and pondered that. Really? He did? Didn't come across that way. So I just assumed that since Nico was being messed with by Eros that this was just a wild answer to make him leave him alone.

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I agree. It really did not seem that way. And still, he ended up being heartbroken about it and everything… He asked him from the very beginning if Annabeth was his girlfriend, so he must've suspected something. Now thinking about it, since he was still trying to get over Percy in BoO, doesn't that mean Will was his rebound basically?

Shrugs. Personally, it seems like Rick was going for representation points.

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But really almost NO ONE died in HoO. Leo? Brought back to life. In PJO, there was death, realistic death and they stayed dead after they died.

Yep. Not enough death.

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if you want a schist ton of death you should read the Divergent series

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That's not what were saying… We just want it to be realistic. Realistically, at least one or two would die.

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Realistically, most of them would've died.

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This is fiction. "Realistic" doesn't exist.

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Realistically, in such a realm there would have been people dying in a war. From both sides. That's just facts and logic. In PJO, numerous had died, and in HoO it was a problem if they had gotten a scratch.
But if that was the only problem, I'd shrug it off. There were many others.

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I think the biggest problem with the second series was it was rushed, not the actual plot but the publishing, the first series had around 20 chapters with a year in between each one, the second series has chapter counts averring in the 60's with the same amount of time in between releases. Rick Riordan was also writing the Kane Chronicles at the same time so the TLC just wasn't there .

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Out of all the characters in PJO, we lose Bianca, Zoë, Castor, Lee, Pan, Charlie, Silena, Michael, Luke, and Ethan. And Annabeth is nearly killed. In HoO, a series with waaay more characters, we have the seven, Nico, Will, Hedge, Mellie, Thalia, Reyna, Calypso, and countless extras. Out of everyone, the only deaths are Octavian, Phoebe, Bob, and seemingly Leo, but we all know Leo is alive. None of the seven even get badly injured.

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Can we all just remember that this is a website to help writers. We don't discard others' work as trash. I know Rick Riordan (most likely) doesn't use this website, but still. You're setting a bad example for others.

We get it. Y'all don't think Rick Riordan's books are worth reading. But keep in mind that there are other people on this site that read his books and loved them. For some, his books are the reason they enjoy reading at all. So you would be doing us all a big favor by not focusing on the plot holes/bad qualities/character undevelopment and instead focusing on the good parts. The characters you loved and were happy to see again in other books. The dam inside jokes. The ships, for crying out loud.

We all have our own opinions. So please just find yourself another fandom that you know you'll love and obsess over that instead of wasting your time hating on the Riordanverse.

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Am I the only one that felt like Solangelo came out of nowhere?

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@"Three Ravens"
You are my friend, so I mean no disrespect when I say that you should leave this chat. This is for people who have criticism about Riordan’s work, which is by no means perfect, since no one’s work is. If you dislike what we are discussing, I recommend you find another discussion. Also, nobody here is trashing Rick’s work. We are pointing out things that he could have done better. I don’t even think anyone has said they hate Rick’s work, just that they wish he had done some things differently.

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Thank you Jyn

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You are welcome, Sly. Also, Jyn Erso is totally a Slytherin!!

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Hell yeah!

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I can’t decide if Cassian is or not though…I don’t know where to put him.