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That's Debatable

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@Natasha

Does anybody else like to debate?

shurikenwolfbadass_13

Yup.

Mio

It depends on the topic.

@Turzelle

I love to debate! I spent 20 minutes debating whether water is wet or not.

@Celestial-B

I do! If someone gets me started on a topic, I can rant for hours and hours on end about it.

@Natasha

My English class and I spent like 45 minutes debating the importance of rules. And @Celestial-B, SAME!!!!!!!!!! Anybody up for a little debating???????

shurikenwolfbadass_13

Sure! Topic?

@Natasha

Ummm…………… the difference between right and wrong?????

shurikenwolfbadass_13

They're exact opposites, of course! Abstracts on opposite sides of the field!

@Natasha

But sometimes the difference is blurred. Mixed together.

shurikenwolfbadass_13

That's also exactly true, I'd say really, it depends, there are too many variables.

@Natasha

It also depends on a person's views of right and wrong. Biblical views of right and wrong are the true and straightforward views, because they come from God. Therefore we should follow them.

shurikenwolfbadass_13

It all depends on your upbringing!

@Natasha

I guess it does. But it also depends on your influences. Bad influence= Wrong. Good influence=Right.

shurikenwolfbadass_13

Yup.

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Right and wrong are abstract concepts. Every villain thinks they’re right, and every hero fears they’re wrong.

shurikenwolfbadass_13

@lyandie Perfect!

@Natasha

And psycopaths have no knowledge of right or wrong. Mic drop

shurikenwolfbadass_13

Some of them do! They just simply don't care!

@Natasha

Well that may be true. Right and wrong are different. Abstract. On different sides. But most times people believe that right and wrong don't matter. Many people believe that all paths lead to Heaven. They don't.

@Oakie Dokie

in my opinion, while we use them to justify our actions, they don't really exist. how can we truly know who really is right or wrong, good or bad? it's all based on your perspective. I could be completely wrong, but I could also be right. I could be both and neither. at the same time. think about it.

Mio

I'm just going to say, think about Disney's Hunchback of Notre-Dame. The bad guy is an example of perspective.

@Oakie Dokie

true, but where was his mindset? it wasnt right to everyone else, it wasn't wrong to him.

Mio

He thought he was doing what his lord wanted.

@Oakie Dokie

and what did the Hunchback think?

Mio

(I feel like a small school child being questioned…) Well, he didn't really know at first. Then, when things picked up, he didn't agree with any of it; he thought it was wrong.

@Masterkey

How did I not find this thread before???

But I actually think the right and wrong debate is this simple: if you believe in God, then right and wrong are not relative. If you don't believe in God, then right and wrong are relative.

Then it gets more complicated with which god(s) you follow if you believe in God, or which people you decide to listen to or not listen to if you don't believe in God. I'm a Christian, and right and wrong are not as set in stone for every little detail as some fundamentalist Christians make it out to be. The Bible says the whole "law" boils down to loving the Lord your God with all your heart soul and mind, and loving your neighbor as yourself. God doesn't care as much about your individual actions as much as your heart. So you could be doing something like donating to charity, which the world would see as a good thing, but if you were doing it for selfish reasons without love then God counts it as nothing toward you. Same thing goes for if you were beating somebody up. Some people might see it and think it was wrong, that you were hurting someone. Sure. But what if that person was attacking your friend? What if you were retaliating in self defense? God can see the heart, and take that into account, while humans CAN'T see the heart, and their ideas of right and wrong change all the time.

At least, that's what I believe. I think the Bible explains the "grey area" that you all are talking about.

@Natasha

Gasp @Masterkey you put my feelings into words!!!!!

@Oakie Dokie

@Masterkey thank you!! :P

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A good example of a morally grey character is Star Wars’ Doctor Aphra.