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@The-N-U-T-Cracker

Just 1% of women obtain an abortion because they became pregnant through rape, and less than 0.5% do so because of incest, according to the Guttmacher Institute.

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Alright I was wrong (after factchecking myself), however, this website states that most reported abortions are from mothers who cannot afford it, or don’t want their children in the state of affairs this world is in. Don’t force someone to have a child when they can’t afford it, and they don’t want to put the child in our “great” fostering system.

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@Pickles group

So don't get pregnant??? I do not understand what's so hard about not having sex if you don't want a baby???

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The second amendment props up the first amendment

The second and the first have only one thing in common and that’s the right for American citizens

how the fuck do guns relate to my right to talk shit on our government?

Guns mean we can even when they decide we can't. Gun rights are to keep a government in check so it (hopefully) doesn't become tyrannical.

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But teaching women not to have sex by forcing a child upon them or continuing to overcrowd adoption centers and foster homes will get us nowhere. Hell. if anything, it will lead to more neglect and abuse.

And don't tell me there's not overcrowding.

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So don't get pregnant??? I do not understand what's so hard about not having sex if you don't want a baby???

Idk maybe some people just enjoy sex? Is that so hard to understand? It’s a right women should have, and the government should put that power in women to decide.

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So don't get pregnant??? I do not understand what's so hard about not having sex if you don't want a baby???

Idk maybe some people just enjoy sex? Is that so hard to understand? It’s a right women should have, and the government should put that power in women to decide.

Exactly. And not everyone has access to birth control.

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The only reason I’m for abortion is because it’s such a giant women’s rights movement. I myself would never get an abortion unless I needed to (haha getting pregnant in the first place is slim), but I feel every woman should have that to her/their disposal in case something bad happens (like rape or incest). And this also includes birth control, which is somehow also in the debate when it shouldn’t be.

But I also stand by: No uterus no opinion. I haven’t talked with abortion to any of my male friends/bf because I literally don’t care for their opinion.

Well that would make sense if it was truly about a woman's body. (I mean, it is, but that's only half of it.) But the kid getting killed is likely to be male. And even if not, a man should be able to defend the female fetuses being killed.

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The second amendment props up the first amendment

The second and the first have only one thing in common and that’s the right for American citizens

how the fuck do guns relate to my right to talk shit on our government?

Guns mean we can even when they decide we can't. Gun rights are to keep a government in check so it (hopefully) doesn't become tyrannical.

That’s not what I was asking, though. I’m not gonna grab a gun, then shoot up some federal courts, then claim it was my second and first amendment rights when I go to court.

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Well that would make sense if it was truly about a woman's body. (I mean, it is, but that's only half of it.) But the kid getting killed is likely to be male. And even if not, a man should be able to defend the female fetuses being killed.

But it

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about women’s bodies. They are making the decision to not have a child. I really don’t think gender of the baby matters in this situation, either.

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So don't get pregnant??? I do not understand what's so hard about not having sex if you don't want a baby???

Idk maybe some people just enjoy sex? Is that so hard to understand? It’s a right women should have, and the government should put that power in women to decide.

Okay. Sex is great. I'm a virgin but Lol. But since when is the freedom to have sex more important than the life of a tiny human?

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@Pickles group

So don't get pregnant??? I do not understand what's so hard about not having sex if you don't want a baby???

Idk maybe some people just enjoy sex? Is that so hard to understand? It’s a right women should have, and the government should put that power in women to decide.

Yes but are there not other.. um enjoyable things you can do? Until you want a baby?

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@Pickles group

Well that would make sense if it was truly about a woman's body. (I mean, it is, but that's only half of it.) But the kid getting killed is likely to be male. And even if not, a man should be able to defend the female fetuses being killed.

But it

IS

about women’s bodies. They are making the decision to not have a child. I really don’t think gender of the baby matters in this situation, either.

It's about the child.

book

The second amendment props up the first amendment

The second and the first have only one thing in common and that’s the right for American citizens

how the fuck do guns relate to my right to talk shit on our government?

Guns mean we can even when they decide we can't. Gun rights are to keep a government in check so it (hopefully) doesn't become tyrannical.

That’s not what I was asking, though. I’m not gonna grab a gun, then shoot up some federal courts, then claim it was my second and first amendment rights when I go to court.

It means when the gov tries to shoot you for doing something they don't like, you have a chance to pull a Han Solo.

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idk just having the freedom to have sex, like, I don’t understand why people have it either, but within the age range that abortions happen, it would just make sense they’re having it for pleasure, which is ok.

Don’t ask the ace about sex, I was just bringing it up, okay??

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So don't get pregnant??? I do not understand what's so hard about not having sex if you don't want a baby???

Idk maybe some people just enjoy sex? Is that so hard to understand? It’s a right women should have, and the government should put that power in women to decide.

Yes but are there not other.. um enjoyable things you can do? Until you want a baby?

Not everyone wants to spend their lives giving blowjobs.

book

So don't get pregnant??? I do not understand what's so hard about not having sex if you don't want a baby???

Idk maybe some people just enjoy sex? Is that so hard to understand? It’s a right women should have, and the government should put that power in women to decide.

Exactly. And not everyone has access to birth control.

There are natural methods that don't require drugs or condoms. (Pretty much not having sex for a part of each month.)

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The second amendment props up the first amendment

The second and the first have only one thing in common and that’s the right for American citizens

how the fuck do guns relate to my right to talk shit on our government?

Guns mean we can even when they decide we can't. Gun rights are to keep a government in check so it (hopefully) doesn't become tyrannical.

That’s not what I was asking, though. I’m not gonna grab a gun, then shoot up some federal courts, then claim it was my second and first amendment rights when I go to court.

It means when the gov tries to shoot you for doing something they don't like, you have a chance to pull a Han Solo.

There is truth in this

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So don't get pregnant??? I do not understand what's so hard about not having sex if you don't want a baby???

Idk maybe some people just enjoy sex? Is that so hard to understand? It’s a right women should have, and the government should put that power in women to decide.

Exactly. And not everyone has access to birth control.

There are natural methods that don't require drugs or condoms. (Pretty much not having sex for a part of each month.)

You can still get pregnant by having sex when you're not on your period. And pulling out doesn't always work.

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So don't get pregnant??? I do not understand what's so hard about not having sex if you don't want a baby???

Idk maybe some people just enjoy sex? Is that so hard to understand? It’s a right women should have, and the government should put that power in women to decide.

Exactly. And not everyone has access to birth control.

There are natural methods that don't require drugs or condoms. (Pretty much not having sex for a part of each month.)

A woman can get pregnant within any time of the month, Dom…

book

Hmm. I know this stuff exists, but I never actually studied it so I can't defend it.

@The-N-U-T-Cracker

but when does a woman’s right to sex become more important than a child’s right to their own life?
it just doesn’t make sense

@The-N-U-T-Cracker

i’m gonna disappear for a while, might be back in a day or so but i’m just not doing great today and this is not helping much…

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An embryo is not a child.

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hey that’s alright Ella. Feel better soon.

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What Emi said.

book

An embryo is not a child.

I mean, yes and no. Explain.

book

hey that’s alright Ella. Feel better soon.

^^^^^^^^^

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An embryo is not a child.

Well, all considered, it sort of is?

But this debate feels like it’s against women’s rights and rights of a child. Which is why it’s so hard to debate bc so many people are uneducated about the situation.

Like myself! anyway i think I’m gonna stop with this debate before I am made a fool of.

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An embryo is not a child.

I mean, yes and no. Explain.

No. It's a cluster of cells.