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@berlioz February 11, 2022

Ok I just looked it up, and there are technically policies protecting trans students.
However it's only about anti-harassment, and if the student wants access to a neutral bathroom/locker room, the parents have to be involved in the decision. Nothing on names/pronouns from what I see.

oh
Wait the parents have to be involved?? what about closeted kids who can't be out at home??

Exactly
I'm that kid but I've never asked for gender space related accommodations. I took gym online and just try to use the restroom during class when no one is in there.

@ElderGod-Icefire February 11, 2022

also this whole conversation reminds me of a girl I know who is very transphobic, and it's bc one of her friends at public school heard another girl get raped in the girls' bathroom by a guy. so clearly trans women are at fault bc otherwise the guy could never have gotten in (insert a massive eyeroll here) and now the school doesn't allow trans kids to use their preferred bathroom, and has fucking guards/teachers/something at the doors to the bathrooms to enforce the rule

like. i feel so bad about this girl who got raped. but at the same time. it is not the fault of trans women that a cis dude went into the women's bathroom.

@ElderGod-Icefire February 11, 2022

Ok I just looked it up, and there are technically policies protecting trans students.
However it's only about anti-harassment, and if the student wants access to a neutral bathroom/locker room, the parents have to be involved in the decision. Nothing on names/pronouns from what I see.

oh
Wait the parents have to be involved?? what about closeted kids who can't be out at home??

Exactly
I'm that kid but I've never asked for gender space related accommodations. I took gym online and just try to use the restroom during class when no one is in there.

that really sucks :/

@berlioz February 11, 2022

it is not the fault of trans women that a cis dude went into the women's bathroom.

Exactly. It's shirking the responsibility of men to do something about rape culture by blaming it on an already marginalized community.
It sucks that public restroom aren't safe tho. I hope that girl is doing well now.

@ElderGod-Icefire February 11, 2022

it is not the fault of trans women that a cis dude went into the women's bathroom.

Exactly. It's shirking the responsibility of men to do something about rape culture by blaming it on an already marginalized community.
It sucks that public restroom aren't safe tho. I hope that girl is doing well now.

yes!
yeah. idk if she is, I don't know her personally, but i really hope she's ok

@Althalosian-is-the-father February 11, 2022

it is not the fault of trans women that a cis dude went into the women's bathroom.

Exactly. It's shirking the responsibility of men to do something about rape culture by blaming it on an already marginalized community.
It sucks that public restroom aren't safe tho. I hope that girl is doing well now.

Well the argument goes that normalization of different sexes in opposite bathrooms will make it easier for rapists which seems reasonable. Not that trans folks will be at fault for that -though that is what some believe- but yeah. Obviously sex segregation has never stopped rapists but it does make sense that people will take advantage of it

@ElderGod-Icefire February 11, 2022

it is not the fault of trans women that a cis dude went into the women's bathroom.

Exactly. It's shirking the responsibility of men to do something about rape culture by blaming it on an already marginalized community.
It sucks that public restroom aren't safe tho. I hope that girl is doing well now.

Well the argument goes that normalization of different sexes in opposite bathrooms will make it easier for rapists which seems reasonable. Not that trans folks will be at fault for that -though that is what some believe- but yeah. Obviously sex segregation has never stopped rapists but it does make sense that people will take advantage of it

sir. cis men can and do go into women's bathrooms anyway. women get raped all the time by men. men get raped by men. whether or not trans people can go into the bathrooms they prefer has pretty much zero impact on rape, bc it happens anyways, and I hate that that is a true sentence

fuck the patriarchy

@Althalosian-is-the-father February 11, 2022

Obviously sex segregation has never stopped rapists

@ElderGod-Icefire February 11, 2022

yeah i was venting, my apologies if it seemed like I was attacking/angry with you! I know what you were saying, and I still stand by everything I said

@Althalosian-is-the-father February 11, 2022

Oh okay thanks

I think this is a complex issue like everything else that a lot of people miss the nuance of, instead turning to simple political talking points and generalities. I’m honestly not even sure where I stand on this issue

@ElderGod-Icefire February 11, 2022

Yeah makes sense

@Katastrophic February 11, 2022

why do bathrooms need to be gendered? just have a nice hall of unisex/fam bathrooms with properly closing and locking doors. Stalls are bs anyways, too many stories of wide cracks and kids crawling under the doors and stuff. Plus, avoids awkward situations that involve noise like opening products, crying children, and other bodily functions that can be embarrassingly loud.

@Althalosian-is-the-father February 12, 2022

1 people get awkward
2 men are horrid

@Pickles February 12, 2022

why do bathrooms need to be gendered? just have a nice hall of unisex/fam bathrooms with properly closing and locking doors. Stalls are bs anyways, too many stories of wide cracks and kids crawling under the doors and stuff. Plus, avoids awkward situations that involve noise like opening products, crying children, and other bodily functions that can be embarrassingly loud.

^^^^^^^

@Althalosian-is-the-father February 12, 2022

Harder more expensive

@Katastrophic February 12, 2022

if only we had money to build nicer areas like in schools…

On that topic I want to be rude to my city's education department for trying to pass useless bills like trying to put multiple cameras in each schoolroom instead of lowering the teacher-student ratio or employing councilors and sped teachers , fixing the teacher shortage (instead they let go a bunch of teachers for their political leanings), or rebuilding the corrupt administration that is trying to remove teacher's lunch and planning periods so they can sub for no pay.

@ElderGod-Icefire February 13, 2022

i hate that there are so many men that think getting kicked in the balls is literally more painful than fucking childbirth like sir. wtf

@Althalosian-is-the-father February 13, 2022

In their defence. Ball kicks are profound pain and we haven't even felt cramps

@ElderGod-Icefire February 13, 2022

yes. but. is getting kicked in the nads more painful than pushing an entire fucking human out of you?? i feel like logically, no

@Althalosian-is-the-father February 13, 2022

Nah ofc.

@ElderGod-Icefire February 14, 2022

tiktoks about stimming/adhd need to stop being so relatable and calling me out for thinking that aspects of my adhd were just part of my personality and it was a me problem not a mental imbalance problem–

@Althalosian-is-the-father February 14, 2022

Lmao same
Same vibe as finding out so much of my personality is based in trauma 10/10 lame get some originality

@ElderGod-Icefire February 17, 2022

help my dad just referred to a woman as a "female" and i physically cringed

@Pickles February 17, 2022

Pot roast the cat is dead and I no longer want to exist

@berlioz February 25, 2022

Wretched Radio is just Christian Rush Limbaugh

@Pickles February 28, 2022

God the fucking audacity of some people. Wow. Very mature kiddo. I feel like shit and I don't even know what I did and I want to complain so bad but I don't have anyone to complain to so here I am

@Althalosian-is-the-father February 28, 2022

Cavetown is so adorable

@Althalosian-is-the-father February 28, 2022

^^So what happened?

@evastardust RRAAAARRL February 28, 2022

RRAAAARRL

I've only heard two Cavetown songs (Boys Will Be Bugs and Devil Town) and they were both good. Liked Boys Will Be Bugs more, but both are a little slow for me.

@ElderGod-Icefire February 28, 2022

Cavetown isn't bad but it's just not my style of music ~~is that anti-gay of me to say lmao~~

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