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Which is more important to you?

shurikenwolfbadass_13 forum 38 comments schedule

Intelligence, or creativity?
Strength, or appearance?
Indulgence, or struggle?
Time, or space?
Creation, or destruction?
Reality, or dream?
Life, or death?
Science, or religion?
Technology, or magic?

Why is that so? Explain it to me, if you want to.

@m1dn1g7t_ri0ts_13

Ummm… That’s hard. I don’t even know!

@Turzelle

Creativity, because being able to take knowledge and apply it in ways not done before is a valuable skill. Although it’s best when you have both.
Strength is more important, physically, mentally and emotionally. It’s dependable.
Struggle makes a person strong if they learn to work with it.
Time and space are both valuable. We’ll need both if we’re going to change the world for the better.
According the the Scientific Law of Conservation, nothing can be created nor destroyed. Only recycled.
Dreams can’t exist without a reality to base them off of, but we can’t change reality if we don’t have dreams. I think reality is more important, but I’m still a dreamer.
Religion. I am religious.
Technology is important. It’s what makes our world progress. Whether to a bad spot or good. A long time ago, the fork was considered technology. Eye glasses were considered technology. The ballpoint pen was considered technology.

For me, I'd say…
Intelligence.
Strength.
Struggle.
Space.
Creation.
Reality.
Death.
Science.
Technology.

@Turzelle

Why?

@m1dn1g7t_ri0ts_13

I have so many arguments as to why we need both. For many of those you can’t have one without the other. For example, without death we do not value life and without life we don’t even have death.

Intelligence: Thinking, learning, attaining, retaining, and applying and all that other good stuff that makes up intellingence, are awesome advantages to have in life, and I like being ahead, eh?
Strength: The ability to stand up for myself, and deck anyone who deserves it, are, well, better than looking good, so long as you don't get caught, which, is a different story.
Struggle: It molds badasses.
Space: I like existing.
Creation: It's more useful than destruction.
Reality: I'm a person who would rather face the facts then live a lie.
Death: It's metal as hell, and necessary.
Science: The answers are all there, although that's not to say that religion can't coincide with it.
Technology: Laser guns beat fireballs, FTL space travel beats a flying carpet, and time machines beat pretty much anything else.

@m1dn1g7t_ri0ts_13

WITHOUT MOST OF THESE THERE WILL BE NO CONCEPT OF THE OTHER! If there’s no dreams, the what’s reality exactly? If there no life, how can there be death? If there’s no creation, how can there be destruction?

I'm aware, this isn't "sacrifice one for the other" it's "which one is more important", I did that on purpose.

@m1dn1g7t_ri0ts_13

More important to you?

To anyone who feels like answering.

@m1dn1g7t_ri0ts_13

Lol still have no clue what I’d say.

Oh.

@m1dn1g7t_ri0ts_13

Gotta give me credit for those awesome quotes though! :)

Yes.

Think of it this way.

The ability to think and learn well, or the ability to use your imagination in unique ways?

The ability to lift heavy loads, punch hard, jump high, and tear things to pieces, or having an attractive face and a nice body?

Enjoying completely the better side of life, or taking discipline from the worse side of life?

Existence of experience, I know this one is paradoxical.

The ability to make, or the ability to destroy?

Seeing things for what they really are and being clear, or enhancing the experience with your hopes and wishes.

Beginning or end?

Fact, or possibility?

Warping reality with nature, or harnessing nature's best aspects.

That probably actually made it worse.

@m1dn1g7t_ri0ts_13

Possibly!

Either way… I have my answers.

@Masterkey

I'll give the short answer now, and the long answer later. :P

Creativity
Strength
Struggle
Time
Creation
Reality
Life
Science
Technology (I'd like to choose magic, but since I chose Reality before, I can't NOT choose tech)

@Masterkey

SORRY FOR THE ESSAY IN ADVANCE.

CREATIVITY. Einstein said, "The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination." I think it's really important to know how to think, how to apply information, how to determine bias, how to research, etc. But I believe firmly that any ol' Joe Shmo can learn how to think, it just takes being taught (and a lot of people aren't taught these days). But IF they were just taught, I think what makes someone stand out is creativity. Not just having knowledge, but creating something new.

STRENGTH. This is a no-brainer… Live a life capable of doing all the awesome things you want to do, or sacrifice strength to fulfill a random beauty standard that changes all the time and is different all over the world and won't even last??

STRUGGLE. Learning how to live through trials in your life is the best way for you to grow as a person. If you don't want to grow, by all means, lay around and "enjoy" life.

TIME. It's extremely valuable because it waits for no one.

CREATION. I can see when destruction could be good, like getting rid of bad systems or just anything bad for that matter, but in the end, destruction leads to nothing and creation leads to everything.

REALITY. Books and shows made me feel less lonely, more fulfilled, just more entertained than my real life did. I lived my dreams through those stories… But then I stepped back and asked myself if I wanted to rely on books and such to have an "entertaining" life. No! I want to be out there doing all that stuff myself! DON'T LET YOUR DREAMS STAY DREAMS. MAKE 'EM REALITY.

LIFE. Something being alive is so much more than it being dead.

SCIENCE. I chose science even though I am a Christian. One, I LOVE SCIENCE. It's so interesting and cool, it was my favorite subject for a lot of my school years, I used to watch documentaries about science and history with my mom every day–I just have a lot of good memories attached to it. Two, "religion" is a system of belief that can be used to manipulate, excuse horrible acts, and halt advancement in the world. That's one of the reasons why I don't call myself "religious." The faith I have has nothing to do with rules, with earning your way to heaven, or with forcing anyone to do anything. It's about God's love, and responding to that love WITH love for God and for others. God is the one who came up with the rules of the world, the rules that science tries to discover.

So there you have it. :P

@Masterkey

Oops I forgot technology vs magic.

I guess I just think the things people create with the materials they can scavenge and the brains in their heads is way cooler than magic when I stop to think about it. Magic is only viewed as cool because it doesn't exist. If it was the norm, no one would think twice.

You can choose magic if you chose reality, why not? It's not supposed to make sense 'key.

Also, I'm aware of that Einstein quote, it's his most famous one. But when I say "intelligence", I don't mean knowledge, I mean the ability of extraordinary mental function, mathematical inclination, literary inclination, logical ability, and decision making skills, and when I say "creativity", I mean the ability to think outside the box, and come up with some surreal and/or unique stuff.

@Masterkey

Okay cool. But couldn't your definition of intelligence include being able to think outside the box? The first step to learning how to think is how to think for yourself. "Mental function" is a little too broad, math is a little too narrow, literary inclination is another narrow thing separate from math… I mean, someone can be generally good at all of these things. I think most people have that potential. But some people are good at math and bad at reading comprehension. Some people are certified geniuses but have an extremely low EQ and get laughed at and can't make friends easily. Some people struggle to retain information you'd learn at school but they're a genius at playing intense classical pieces on the piano and understanding music. There's street smart and book smart. I mean, the world was benefitted by a combination of "intelligent" people and "creative" people. I'm not sure if you're implying that there are creative people who aren't intelligent? I feel like a true idiot would be neither.

@Masterkey

Also, I wasn't just talking about knowledge. I did say that most people can learn how to be intelligent (to learn how to think is how I've been saying it) if they would only be taught. So then if intelligence is that accessible, what makes certain people really stand out is creativity.

To be honest though, standing out isn't everything. In fact I like stories about people who are generally dumber than their peers, and/or generally uncreative. And then I like seeing what those people can bring to the table. All people are valuable no matter where their IQ or imagination stands. So maybe I'll have to pick neither… I don't know anymore. XD

I know what you mean, Faraday got laughed at in school and was utterly pathetic there, but excelled in the scientific field,and yes, thinking outside the box is also key to cleverness, which is a part of intelligence. As for mathematically inclined, I don't think it's too narrow, there are so many types of mathematics, and mathematical-logical intelligence is a type of intelligence that is classified in the theory of multiple intelligences, as is verbal-lierary. Now, by mental function, I mean how much information your mind can gather, store, and access, and how quickly and efficiently it can do this. And it's true that people are all very intellectually diverse, but I'm talking in general, not y'know, being intellectually perfect, but at the very least above average, versatile, and having a bit of variety in there. I believe that creativity and intelligence are two sides of the same coin, much like most of the options up here, but I believe that there is something that separates certain aspects of the two. And also, yes ma'am, I actually know a few people who are geniuses in some areas, but completely useless in others, it's how we humans work. Nobody is a nigh all-mastering supergenius like rick Sanchez or Dexter, otr all of the ones in kids' cartoons, but again, I'm going for a well-rounded type of intelligence, that encompasses several subcategories.

Also, I don't think that IQ or academics are the true measure of intelligence, nor is TOMI, but if you put them all together you get an idea.

I guess the word I am looking for, is not intelligence, but logic. Huh.

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Intelligence, or creativity?
Creativity cannot exist without intelligence, but intelligence can exist without creativity, so I’ll go with creativity.

Strength, or appearance?
Physical or mental strength? If it’s mental strength, then strength, but if it’s physical, then appearance.

Indulgence, or struggle?
Struggle, because without it you’ll never know what you’re capable of

Time, or space?
Time. Space and time are both seemingly inifinate, but time will eventually run out for us all.

Creation, or destruction?
Creation. As long as I create, destruction wont bother me, thus keeping me in a better mental state. I can’t count on others to create, but I can trust them to destroy.

Reality, or dream?
Reality. A dream is simply a dream, you can only accomplish things in reality.

Life, or death?
Life. Even though it is a struggle, it will be better than the uncertainty of death, and the chances of purgatory or hell, though one could argue that is what life is at times.

Science, or religion?
Religion. Science is all about facts and what cannot be done, while religion is about hope and what will be.

Technology, or magic?
Technology. Magic would be unpredictable, but technology is loyal and can be controlled, unlike magic.

@Masterkey

Yep, I agree with all of that. So since you chose intelligence over creativity as the thing more important to you, are you saying that you'd rather have above average general intelligence and be an uncreative person than vise versa?