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@saor_illust school

What? lol it isn't mine btw their username on another site literally used to be "Ingmar, Spoon Connoisseur" It's something they bring up all the time

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@GameMaster group

But Sporks and Foons

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@saor_illust school

I know. Ingmar's against sporks as well. lol it's probably a joke opinion but idc

@Trix

No.
Torture is inhumane and horrible.

Agreed, but is it justifiable? In extreme cases where the information you're seeking is more valuable?

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@saor_illust school

No.
Torture is inhumane and horrible.

Agreed, but is it justifiable? In extreme cases where the information you're seeking is more valuable?

I'm not sure, in some cases, it may be, but what about the potential trauma of it in the long-term? Family members? What if the efforts are all in vain? (Sorry I'm just throwing in my input)

@Trix

I'm not sure, in some cases, it may be, but what about the potential trauma of it in the long-term? Family members? What if the efforts are all in vain? (Sorry I'm just throwing in my input)

Don't have to apologize for giving your opinion :D
And if the victim of torture was on their way to execution either way?

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@saor_illust school

Oki thx

I guess then it would be justifiable? But what about animals, living creatures other than humans? Is the torture of animals justifiable? Honestly a quick and easy execution would be much, much, more humane, and the animal would die without pain.

@Trix

…why would we be torturing an animal…?

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@saor_illust school

The cruel and cold, the psychopaths, they would. (I don't know why I even brought that up.)

book

I'm not sure, in some cases, it may be, but what about the potential trauma of it in the long-term? Family members? What if the efforts are all in vain? (Sorry I'm just throwing in my input)

Don't have to apologize for giving your opinion :D
And if the victim of torture was on their way to execution either way?

Torture is a greater harm than killing someone. And it doesn’t work. And people deserve rights no matter how terrible they are unless those rights have to be taken away to protect innocent people.

@Trix

Such as gaining valuable information that has potential to protect innocent people?

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Most would disagree and say that choosing to commit a terrible crime is willingly giving up the right to have humane treatment as a direct response to their crime.

book

And I might agree if it was proven to work.

@amber_is_in_a_loop

Most would disagree and say that choosing to commit a terrible crime is willingly giving up the right to have humane treatment as a direct response to their crime.

I disagree with that

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oh?

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Unpopular opinion: Hunting is horrible and shouldn't be a thing.

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It's not like our ancestors did it to survive or anything.

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We don't need to anymore. There's no need to kill wild animals for sport.

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Do you know how hunting works in most countries?

@amber_is_in_a_loop

Unpopular opinion: Hunting is horrible and shouldn't be a thing.

Well. It was justifiable before. But these days, with the more humane animal culture and the hunting that's done on endangered animals for rare products, it should not be a thing.

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Unpopular opinion: Hunting is horrible and shouldn't be a thing.

Well. It was justifiable before. But these days, with the more humane animal culture and the hunting that's done on endangered animals for rare products, it should not be a thing.

Precisely.

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But that's not how hunting works in most developed countries.

Hunting on endangered animals is actually poaching which is wildly illegal. Not to mention that hunting in third world countries is not regulated like it is here. Why do you think people go to Africa and such for that? Because that kind of hunting is illegal in the more modern countries.

@LadyCiel

I guess you shut them up, Eris

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I just know a lot about hunting.
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@Mojack group

Also, hunting is done in certain cultures (even in the modern world) that know how to use the animal once they have hunted it.

Here’s an article here; http://www.virtualmuseum.ca/edu/ViewLoitLo.do?method=preview&lang=EN&id=10679 ignore the learning objectives part, but I found some parts to be interesting and they might relate to some of the conversation here.

Not all hunting is bad. Poaching isn’t good, which is why (like Eris said already) they go to third world countries, where it isn’t as regulated. However, not all people live in places where store foods may not be accessible, or like in the article, it may not be as healthy for them, either.

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Exactly! Thank you Mojack.

Here in the US hunting is strictly regulated to areas where there is over population and the hunters are required to use most (if not all) of the animal that they killed.
When my father and I used to hunt down in Mexico, we would give the meat to the locals so they could feed their families and just take home the skin/fur/bones/etc. for use at home.

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I'm not one to deny it when someone has a good point. You do; I'm still personally against hunting, but you definitely pointed some good things out.

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@saor_illust school

Yeah that's true mojack. Didn't the Indians so that with like elephants or something?

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Unpopular opinion: Stranger Things wasn't all that great.

@Bananapudding

Unpopular opinion: Stranger Things wasn't all that great.

(over exaggerated gasp)