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But we do have the right to make sure they never commit the crime again. It is owed to society by the law enforcement. And there is only one method that is guaranteed to work.

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I think the death penalty could be beneficial in some very extreme cases but I don’t think it should be legal because of the institutionalized racism in America (I don’t know about other countries). I also think there should be a more humane way to do it if it is legal because there is currently no painless way to receive the death penalty.

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@Moxie group

Also on the subject of prisons, I don’t think private prisons should be legal. When something that had so much impact on a persons mental health is commercialized and only is in it for the money, bad things can and do happen.

@WriteOutofTime

But we do have the right to make sure they never commit the crime again. It is owed to society by the law enforcement. And there is only one method that is guaranteed to work.

It's actually not that likely that a murderer will kill again.

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If people believe they have the right to take others' lives, perhaps they deserve their own taken as well. But overall, I don't agree with Death Penalty.

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But we do have the right to make sure they never commit the crime again. It is owed to society by the law enforcement. And there is only one method that is guaranteed to work.

It's actually not that likely that a murderer will kill again.

But not impossible, my dude.

book

I think the death penalty could be beneficial in some very extreme cases but I don’t think it should be legal because of the institutionalized racism in America (I don’t know about other countries). I also think there should be a more humane way to do it if it is legal because there is currently no painless way to receive the death penalty.

I think it should be legal, but rare. Just like handling a weapon means one must be even more responsible, the death penalty should be used only rarely. For people who serial rape and murder and people who torture others to death without justification.

book

And maybe not even all those.

@amber_is_in_a_loop

I think the death penalty should legal for mentally unstable criminals or the cases that go beyond immoral and are just downright horrifying.
Now please, please don't interpret this as a prejudice against mental health issues. That's seriously not what I mean.
But I think that the people who on top of being murderous have altered judgment of sense are very very dangerous and unpredictable and wouldn't learn from being imprisoned once.

@Bananapudding

I think the death penalty should legal for mentally unstable criminals or the cases that go beyond immoral and are just downright horrifying.
Now please, please don't interpret this as a prejudice against mental health issues. That's seriously not what I mean.
But I think that the people who on top of being murderous have altered judgment of sense are very very dangerous and unpredictable and wouldn't learn from being imprisoned once.

But whose to say said mentally ill person would be released?

@amber_is_in_a_loop

Prisons don't have limitless space, and aren't fail proof.

book

Hmm. But should someone really be killed because of a genetic failing or mutation?

@amber_is_in_a_loop

No. They're killed because that genetic failing/mutation is coupled with criminal intent.

book

I stand corrected.

@amber_is_in_a_loop

Also, call me cruel, but some people deserve nothing but death.
Also, those who are sentenced to life in prison and have zero chance of a reduced sentence should be/should have the choice to be put to death.

@Bananapudding

I think they should have the choice but not just outright killing them.

@amber_is_in_a_loop

Here's what I think:
It's the same idea as cremating people for the sake of space.
I know it's different cause they're alive, but those sentenced to life in prison are sort of stuck anyway, right? Save everyone trouble (again, I know that's not a nice thought), put them out of their misery and save space and resources.
Fine, though, maybe it should to their families or something like that. But I still think it's a very viable option.

@amber_is_in_a_loop

I know you're probably thinking I'm cruel or drastic or something but… yeah. Beliefs are beliefs.

book

Not I. Even if I don’t completely agree with you I completely understand where you’re coming from.

book

But couldn’t one argue that the evil a mentally impaired man does should not be held against him as truly evil? For how can one sin without the knowledge that it is a sin?

@amber_is_in_a_loop

If you follow this judgment, then those who believe that what they are doing is right are to be considered not fully at fault. And yet most terrorists believe that what they're doing is for the good go the world.
When one is judged, one is judged against the norm. As far as I know, the norm understands and obeys the 'classic' definition of sinning.

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I think the death penalty could be beneficial in some very extreme cases but I don’t think it should be legal because of the institutionalized racism in America (I don’t know about other countries). I also think there should be a more humane way to do it if it is legal because there is currently no painless way to receive the death penalty.

I think it should be legal, but rare. Just like handling a weapon means one must be even more responsible, the death penalty should be used only rarely. For people who serial rape and murder and people who torture others to death without justification.

I agree. And they should need to have been proven guilty with very little (if any) possible evidence to the contrary.

@Bananapudding

Executions have no place in society.

@amber_is_in_a_loop

Public executions do not. Executions could.

@Bananapudding

No human has the right to take the life of another.

@amber_is_in_a_loop

I would disagree.

AbbyAlways

I'm going to throw my opinion in the mix, I believe in the death penalty under rare circumstances.

@amber_is_in_a_loop

^^

@Bananapudding

Why spend all those funds murdering someone instead of spending it on something more valuable. Like spending it on the murder victim's family for things like counseling and such.

@amber_is_in_a_loop

I don't know that it would cost that much. And, listen, we're not talking about brutal deaths like beatings or the electric chair or anything. All those methods are revolting and should never again see the light of death. We're talking quick and painless deaths.
And, we're saving so much money by limiting the resources used for prisons, since there are less inmates.