Let's talk about the most controversial shit

What are the rates of attacks without guns in Japan?
And what do you think Eris, about the, "If we have guns we don't need to worry because we can defend ourselves" argument.

That's a great question, i actually don't know. But if people are going around chopping people with katanas I think at that point they may have deserved it. (poor joke. sorry guys)
What do you mean "we can defend ourselves"? Like we don't need a military or police force anymore?

I personally say we need to have stricter gun laws. Currently it is extremely easy to acquire a gun, and even if we did develop a way to dictate who should own a gun and who can't. People can still abuse the system by making themselves look better than they actually are. You can't control people no matter how hard you try. You say guns can protect us, but they also are the ones threatening us. It's just a big old cycle that just keeps on going. Let's just take guns out of the equation, since even if trustworthy people own the guns, they can still easily fall into the wrong hands.

One suggestion I do have for regulation for people like Lex that enjoy shooting is to have guns limited to shooting ranges and have a high penalty for both the range and the person taking the gun if a gun leaves the range. That way people who like shooting still get to shoot and the rest of us don't have to worry about whether or not we're in danger.

I think guns should be aloud. But no one can control people.

That's what laws and regulation is for.

I know, vaguely, the gun laws in Cali

I don't, but there is this one video about a kid who goes and tries to get a bunch of different things like alcohol and drugs. Then he goes to buy a gun, and they just let him buy the gun. And he's only in middle school or something, but there were no checks or anything. So yeah… Only thing I know about getting a gun.

I think guns should be aloud. But no one can control people.

That's what laws and regulation is for.

Yes, but even with laws. No one can control the way others think. Even if it is messed up beyond compare.

True but that doesn't mean that we cannot control how they obtain dangerous items.

Yes.
That was not my point.
I think we should have more regulations on guns.
I'm not very educated on this so I'm not completley sure if this is true.
I think that they should go to multiple classes on it, have more therough background checks, etc.

Also I think that if there are kids in a house, or any mentally ill person, there should be extra regulations for anyone who could own a gun. It's been almost a year since Parkland and there hasn't been enough changes. People are still dying because of guns. I'm not super educated about this btw. But changes need to be made and there needs to be more regulation. You shouldn't be able to walk in and out in less than an hour. There should be background checks for everyone

Yeah that sounds good, also keep the gun in like a passcoded safe or something at their house. Since most of the guns that kids use in school shootings are their parents.

There are in a lot of states. But if there's nothing on you than it makes sense that it wouldn't take long.
Btw the thing I was talking about goes to the basics. Not concealed or the high caliber.

^^^ Can confirm it's really that easy. I know because I got my hunting rifle a few years ago with my dad and they only really asked for our IDs and gave us the paperwork to fill out before buying the rifle. (Yes I only use a gun to hunt. I hunt for meat. I honor my kill by using as much as I can from the animal and consuming the heart if I can.)

Yeah that sounds good, also keep the gun in like a passcoded safe or something at their house. Since most of the guns that kids use in school shootings are their parents.

Where did you get this information?

…..Logic? It's more of an assumption than anything considering most of the kids wouldn't technically be allowed to own a gun.

Yeah, sorry it seemed that way.

I know for my dad's concealed weapon he had to go through a million hoops before he got his permit. And he was/ still is in the military. So there is proper regulation around some guns but not all.

I used to hunt all the time, but I went through extensive pre-military trailing with my dad before I was allowed anywhere near a gun. So it can go either way regarding parents.

Well it's different in each state
also I was about to search up the regulations for Texas before remembering that I'm using a school chromebook and that's like super suspicious

As always it is hard to debate when everyone agrees…

What are the rates of attacks without guns in Japan?
And what do you think Eris, about the, "If we have guns we don't need to worry because we can defend ourselves" argument.

That's a great question, i actually don't know. But if people are going around chopping people with katanas I think at that point they may have deserved it. (poor joke. sorry guys)
What do you mean "we can defend ourselves"? Like we don't need a military or police force anymore?

As always it is hard to debate when everyone agrees…

True… one or a few of us could play Devil's Advocate maybe? If not then we can just move on to another topic?

Alright, I googled some stuff and while I have no idea what some of these things are, I'll list them anyway

Death penalty
Plastic surgery
Abortion (I know a few things about this)
Climate change
Animal rights (I know a few things about this too)
Gun control (I've seen some details about this but not enough to know how to debate it)
School uniforms
Trump (already mentioned, I'm just bringing it back because I know absolutely nothing about him)
Immigration
Religious rights
The US military

…There are some topic ideas for you, go crazy.

If we decide to change topics