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Stereotypes.

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@Becfromthedead group

Thanks. That kind of explanation is what happens when you allow a group of tired college students to sit around and be philosophical…

book

You have no idea how happy I am to have helped.

@m1dn1g7t_ri0ts_13

What if it's for the good of someone other than you, but at the expense of someone else? (sorry I don't think anyone knows the answer. Just throwing it out there.)

@Shuri-the-Floof-Doggo

I think it goes like this… Good is determined both by you yourself, and the majority of humans… You don't think rape is good, and neither do the majority of humans, myself included… So rape is evil… It's that simple…

book

Then you get into the "Greater Good" discussion. And I answer that the ends do not justify the means.
Or else it would be okay to kill some random innocent person to save the life of someone else.
(I guess that would have to be in a magic world but the point still stands.)

book

I think it goes like this… Good is determined both by you yourself, and the majority of humans… You don't think rape is good, and neither do the majority of humans, myself included… So rape is evil… It's that simple…

But remember what I said.
I'll ask you a question if all humanity thought rape was okay, (except for the victims) would it be?

@m1dn1g7t_ri0ts_13

But would it be okay to kill someone to save someone else? That's basically my question.

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@Becfromthedead group

Hmmm, idk. Then, it's all perspective. It's not evil, I don't think, unless the motivation to help said person was selfish (like, let's say it was your boss who needed help, and you think you could get a promotion out of it.)
Sometimes there's no good way out…
On the topic of perspective, though, you know that phrase "to hell with good intentions?"I think that might kind of apply, especially in cases where you do something you perceive as helpful or correct (and not in your self-interest alone), when really you're hurting everyone involved.

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@Becfromthedead group

Oh, we're talking about killing people now…

book

But would it be okay to kill someone to save someone else? That's basically my question.

No.

@m1dn1g7t_ri0ts_13

These are all good points. This kind of thing is hard to make sense out of.

@m1dn1g7t_ri0ts_13

But would it be okay to kill someone to save someone else? That's basically my question.

No.

Mind explaining please?

book

I mean it's understandable, but not good.

@Shuri-the-Floof-Doggo

I think it goes like this… Good is determined both by you yourself, and the majority of humans… You don't think rape is good, and neither do the majority of humans, myself included… So rape is evil… It's that simple…

But remember what I said.
I'll ask you a question if all humanity thought rape was okay, (except for the victims) would it be?

It very well used to be that way… In certain Nordic cultures where warriors took slaves of war as wives… Men were judged on how many "wives" they had… These wives did not consent and were often well… But nonetheless it was seen as "good" or "admirable" in ways… If humanity as a whole were somehow like this… Then, yes, it would be… And that makes me want to take a cold shower…

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@Becfromthedead group

Killing an innocent to save another single person is not good…
Killing someone who is endangering another person's life (trying to kill them/physically harm them) is not great, but more acceptable…
Sacrificing one to save many? Hard to say… my personal code says it's okay, but in the perspective of the moral code I just explained, I'm not so sure.

book

Because you have to think about the other person. You do not have the right to take someone else's life for the gain of anyone.

book

Killing an innocent to save another single person is not good…
Killing someone who is endangering another person's life (trying to kill them/physically harm them) is not great, but more acceptable…
Sacrificing one to save many? Hard to say… my personal code says it's okay, but in the perspective of the moral code I just explained, I'm not so sure.

Now that one I know is very wrong. But I also know I would probably do it myself.

@Shuri-the-Floof-Doggo

Killing an innocent to save another single person is not good…
Killing someone who is endangering another person's life (trying to kill them/physically harm them) is not great, but more acceptable…
Sacrificing one to save many? Hard to say… my personal code says it's okay, but in the perspective of the moral code I just explained, I'm not so sure.

Now that one I know is very wrong. But I also know I would probably do it myself.

I get it…

book

I think it goes like this… Good is determined both by you yourself, and the majority of humans… You don't think rape is good, and neither do the majority of humans, myself included… So rape is evil… It's that simple…

But remember what I said.
I'll ask you a question if all humanity thought rape was okay, (except for the victims) would it be?

It very well used to be that way… In certain Nordic cultures where warriors took slaves of war as wives… Men were judged on how many "wives" they had… These wives did not consent and were often well… But nonetheless it was seen as "good" or "admirable" in ways… If humanity as a whole were somehow like this… Then, yes, it would be… And that makes me want to take a cold shower…

So you would rather believe that there is no actual object morality. That is a pretty scary thing to think.

book

I think it goes like this… Good is determined both by you yourself, and the majority of humans… You don't think rape is good, and neither do the majority of humans, myself included… So rape is evil… It's that simple…

But remember what I said.
I'll ask you a question if all humanity thought rape was okay, (except for the victims) would it be?

It very well used to be that way… In certain Nordic cultures where warriors took slaves of war as wives… Men were judged on how many "wives" they had… These wives did not consent and were often well… But nonetheless it was seen as "good" or "admirable" in ways… If humanity as a whole were somehow like this… Then, yes, it would be… And that makes me want to take a cold shower…

So you would rather believe that there is no actual object morality? That is a pretty scary thing to think.

@Shuri-the-Floof-Doggo

It is very scary… That's why I live by my own code of trying to learn as much as I can and lessen the suffering of others…

I'm sorry… Don't mind me… I've just lost faith in most of humanity…

@Shuri-the-Floof-Doggo

Now maybe you see why I'm always trying to help others…

book

What do you believe, religiously?

@Shuri-the-Floof-Doggo

And if you think I'm a bad person for that… Then I'm not gonna change your mind… Obviously you're entitled to your own beliefs… Every one of you is!

@Shuri-the-Floof-Doggo

What do you believe, religiously?

I think there might be a Higher Power… The chance that everything had to happen just right for life to be created is infinitismal… So… You know… But I'm not religious like that…

@yeetus

Hi

book

It's always a good place to start. I have a hard time understanding people who think there was nothing and then BANG there was something. (Pun intended.)

@yeetus

-_-

book

Was that not funny?

@yeetus

I am pun intolerant