lock This MUST be addressed publicly
He brought it back up, not them, so please don't tell them they're the ones who didn't drop it
I was not aware my words insinuated such a thing I believe I said all parties not just one, I apologize if such offence was taken.
I am trying to be civil about this right now…. I have corrected my mistake. Even acknowledged that it was wrong on multiple levels. Again, I am truly sorry that the info was outdated and harmful. We are all human, and all mess up in major ways from time to time. It was an awful mistake on my part. I'm not saying that you have to forgive me. You can at the very least acknowledge and take my apology into consideration.
but it's likely that he (I do hope you use he/him pronouns if not I apologize and will change it) just saw this stuff and thought "This seems like it could be helpful to others as well."
I can see that you paraphrased here, but that's okay because I said that and provivded evidence.
I saw that, I just think others might've taken it better from someone they don't seem to hate at the moment. Anger clouds the sight.
My wise friend.
All flags are red when looking through lenses tinted red with anger
Breaking copyright laws is a red flag, so is spreading clearly harmful information, regardless of any personal feelings. Don't claim that any of us are blinded by anger or whatever tf
Oh, I'd like to rephrase my words if you also thought of it like that. I had meant that if you're angry with a person you might not see what their saying, instead focusing on the thing they did and the anger that it stirred in you.
Yeah, no, sorry.
I did not make those PMs public immediately just to try and help you save some face.
I said that.
I don’t accept anything you tell me. I don’t accept any apology that might’ve been intended in there. I recognize bullying and harassment, and straight blatant, disgusting use of power in age. It happens to me so often, and in a situation I cannot escape. I do not tolerate it whenever I can lash back. Before you tell me you were not trying to bully me, please reread your strongly worded PM telling me less than politely to shut up. I don’t accept that type of behavior. Ever.
I was not appreciative of you PMing me out of no where and clogging the part of the site I did not want to be clogged. In fact, the reason I didn’t want to PM you is because (OMG AGAIN) I thought it deserved to be public. Everyone needed to know about our grievances and needed to know this happened.
There’s no point in highlighting stuff.
They can (omg) go to the first page and see it for themselves. In fact, I could quite assume that everyone on this chat read that.
I know this is late. I know. But this is my thread. And on a topic (mental illness and sexuality that is), that can so easily be pointed to me? And people I care about? Unacceptable.
I honestly don’t care much about the copyright, I care much more that you tried to attack me about something I have more experience in. That you didn’t read what you edited.
I don’t accept your apology.
It’s unacceptable how you acted towards me. I hope you’re mature enough to understand that.
@andrew (Our Supreme Lord and Overseer) can you lock this please? I’m tired of the excuses. I honestly just don’t care anymore.
This is messed up. What do you want from him exactly? Why is it somehow only your side that matters and you won't even listen to him? And if you hate the book obviously it doesn't matter if he's pirating it and taking away money from an author who you said yourself demonized you. That leaves the only thing he did wrong as share it and get defensive. But of course if you're a little hotheaded and you don't always handle yourself right you all jump down our throats. Why do you all even take it so personally? It's internet drama and you all have your friends on here backing you up. When the insiders (you guys) get criticized you all have a good laugh about it. But when the outsiders get criticized over honest mistakes we're shunned from a place that should have been accepting. Syman and I have both contributed to this community and all you want is to look at our faults and "drama." He tried to give you a resource but all you can think about is the resource was bad for you when he probably didn't even know and you could have educated him politely. I start fandom chats and critique characters and I USED to share all my characters until I deleted them all to make my account delete easier except it still didn't work so I kept seeing all your little messages and comments. It's all honestly sad.
I promise I'm actually not because I'm not the only one who sees it because when people say the forums are toxic it ISN'T just because of the people who you don't like. It's because of the way you react to it and love to turn it into a witch hunt.
oh honey plagiarism is still bad even if the source material is absolutely shit. Sy has done shitty things and needs to be held accountable but I get it, you don't think actions should have consequences.
And stop talking down to me. You think being nice to me like one time means I owe you forever and should be over everything by now. No.
oh honey plagiarism is still bad even if the source material is absolutely shit. Sy has done shitty things and needs to be held accountable but I get it, you don't think actions should have consequences.
It wasn't plagiarism it was pirating. He didn't claim it as his own. But I get it you know nothing about the law and are a bunch of people on the internet acting like they have the moral higher ground.
Lmao imagine acting like you can't enjoy writing spaces without harassing people… Anyways the grownups are talking, you can go now.
oh honey plagiarism is still bad even if the source material is absolutely shit. Sy has done shitty things and needs to be held accountable but I get it, you don't think actions should have consequences.It wasn't plagiarism it was pirating. He didn't claim it as his own. But I get it you know nothing about the law and are a bunch of people on the internet acting like they have the moral higher ground.
Apologies, it was pirating which is still bad (in most contexts, mainlt with books). I sometimes get terms mixed up, thanks for alerting me darling!
And stop talking down to me. You think being nice to me like one time means I owe you forever and should be over everything by now. No.
???? Omg no I don't. You know why I was nice to you one time? Because your drama had me so emotionally drained that I stared at my screen blankly and nitpicked everything you said. And then YOU put me on a pedestal until I made it clear that I didn't like you. Because I do not like you. I don't want you to be nice to me. Stop turning everything on me. But like. Go off, little miss I wanna delete my account
Lmao imagine acting like you can't enjoy writing spaces without harassing people… Anyways the grownups are talking, you can go now.
I'm probably older than at least half of you. You're the ones who started harrassing people. Did Sy start the Rudeness Chat? No your friends did because you need a place to attack people who don't conform to what you want.
You call yourself "Sad_Kiddo". And I'm 19, 20 in like 2-ish months so… like, I'm an adult, I know what I'm saying.
And stop talking down to me. You think being nice to me like one time means I owe you forever and should be over everything by now. No.
???? Omg no I don't. You know why I was nice to you one time? Because your drama had me so emotionally drained that I stared at my screen blankly and nitpicked everything you said. And then YOU put me on a pedestal until I made it clear that I didn't like you. Because I do not like you. I don't want you to be nice to me. Stop turning everything on me. Butt like. Go off, little miss I wanna delete my account
You really love to be mean to people huh. You know that what you do is ACTUALLY bullying.
Also I'm new here I don't know about any rudeness chat… I've like only interacted with Sy a few times…
Lmao imagine acting like you can't enjoy writing spaces without harassing people… Anyways the grownups are talking, you can go now.
I'm probably older than at least half of you. You're the ones who started harrassing people. Did Sy start the Rudeness Chat? No your friends did because you need a place to attack people who don't conform to what you want.
Shut the ever loving fuck up. You know nothing about the rudeness chat. You're fifteen, news flash, most of us are older than you and all of us are leagues more mature. You are not grown up in any sense.
oh honey plagiarism is still bad even if the source material is absolutely shit. Sy has done shitty things and needs to be held accountable but I get it, you don't think actions should have consequences.It wasn't plagiarism it was pirating. He didn't claim it as his own. But I get it you know nothing about the law and are a bunch of people on the internet acting like they have the moral higher ground.
…..it's still illegal, very outdated, and super offensive. And you're the one acting like you have the moral high ground.
Anyways look Sy has done some Shit completely unrelated to you, so stop making this whole thing about yourself alright doll? I'm being nice to you here, believe me I can get worse but I'm choosing to be patient with you.
Actually all of us are being remarkably patient with you.
So please just. Stop.
Anyways look Sy has done some Shit completely unrelated to you, so stop making this whole thing about yourself alright doll? I'm being nice to you here, believe me I can get worse but I'm choosing to be patient with you.
You're not being nice you're talking down to me. I'd love to see you get worse just to see what you could even mean if this is what you think patient is. Sy got attacked the same way I did for something as unimportant as what I did so excuse me if I'm "making it about myself." I talked it over with him and nobody should have to be bullied like you're all bullying him, except I know it happens, because I did it before, and you all did it to me. Not you specifically maybe, but your group.
And I tried to delete my account. 20 TIMES NOW. It won't work I always get a 500 error. No matter how much I delete or what I do. And when I log in to try to delete again I see the notifs and my anxiety makes me click.
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