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@evastardust RRAAAARRL March 01, 2020

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JKR has some very bad takes, but her female characters are excellent. Even in just the major characters, you've got Hermione, Ginny, and Luna who are all strong in different ways, not to mention a good array of female side characters (Tonks, Mrs. Weasley, the Quidditch girls) and villains (Bellatrix, Umbridge, Narcissa).

@Althalosian-is-the-father March 02, 2020

Very much agree.

@Althalosian-is-the-father March 02, 2020

I think one thing you could do to establish strength is to have people rely on her. Back to Hermione, the boys always knew they could rely on her. That showed that they were fully aware of her strength.

@ninja_violinist March 02, 2020

Something I've found really useful in making characters "strong" but in different ways is figuring out which of the Clifton Strengths they have - it's kind of like the MBTI personality test, except it evaluates what kinds of thigns you're inclined to be good at, if that makes sense. There are 34 options and you pick the top 5 (for actual irl personality testing there's a whole question process that you pay for, but the type descriptions are free).
(and then it's easier to put my characters into situations that would challenge that specific part of their personality)

@evastardust RRAAAARRL March 03, 2020

RRAAAARRL

I think one thing you could do to establish strength is to have people rely on her. Back to Hermione, the boys always knew they could rely on her. That showed that they were fully aware of her strength.

Yeah, as much fun as the unexpectedly strong character is, a character whose strength is known is also good. It also makes the scenes where Hermione is panicked, injured, or otherwise unable to help them more impactful, like when she panics in the Devil's Snare or is injured in the Department of Mysteries.

@Althalosian-is-the-father March 03, 2020

"ARE YOU A WITCH OR WHAT?"

@Kinarymo March 03, 2020

Also any suggestions what a young girl might be other than a witch?? i ran out of options that could fit a child xd

@Althalosian-is-the-father March 03, 2020

Wait what? I cannot see the restrictions you are working within that would make such a conclusion make sense.

@evastardust RRAAAARRL March 10, 2020

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(Bump)

@Althalosian-is-the-father March 10, 2020

See. I don't know about something. I hate Instalove™ right? But when it's young teens in high stress situations… Idk what to make of it. Because teenagers.

@Kinarymo March 10, 2020

I work with characters under the age of 14, and i feel like i cant just give them whatever job or role, esp since they are a girl.

Im not really good at making girls, so i really do not know what role to give her, especially since she's 12 and i really dont want to go down the angry tomboy path again. Teens are easier to deal with, but 12 yr olds?? Nope @ - @

@Althalosian-is-the-father March 10, 2020

So why does she need an occupation?

@Kinarymo March 10, 2020

not necessarily an occupation, but like, stuff she can do? unless i leave her as just a normal kid

@Althalosian-is-the-father March 10, 2020

Why does she need to be especially different?

@Kinarymo March 10, 2020

cuz i rlly have no idea what to give her xd Id make her normal but thats what im also stuck at

@Ranbob March 10, 2020

POV switches (Like switching from one character to the other)

@Consider-PB_and_the_Jellies March 10, 2020

POV switches (Like switching from one character to the other)

Omg I hate that like it switches during the chapter for no reason when it makes more sense to change every chapter

@Pickles March 10, 2020

I don't mind it at the chapter if it's done well, but most of the time, the characters have the exact same voice and I forget who's POV I'm on. And switches in the middle of the chapter is really annoying

@ElderGod-Icefire March 10, 2020

I actually really love POV switches so long as they are done well! I mean…i know a lot of examples where it wasn't done well, but I've read a lot of good ones, too. So…idk. i enjoy them, but i know other people hate them

@SupernaturalSyGuyIsTIred March 10, 2020

Also any suggestions what a young girl might be other than a witch?? i ran out of options that could fit a child xd

Could she be a nymph or sprite?

@SupernaturalSyGuyIsTIred March 10, 2020

Characters that do nothing but whine throughout the entire story….

@evastardust RRAAAARRL March 10, 2020

RRAAAARRL

I don't mind it at the chapter if it's done well, but most of the time, the characters have the exact same voice and I forget who's POV I'm on. And switches in the middle of the chapter is really annoying

I like 3rd person POV switches, but not 1st person ones.

@Althalosian-is-the-father March 10, 2020

Agreed. As long as they aren't jarring or monotonous.

@Althalosian-is-the-father March 10, 2020

Characters that do nothing but wine throughout the entire story….

I think you meant to say whine. I myself wouldn't mind a character that continuously wined.

@SupernaturalSyGuyIsTIred March 11, 2020

Characters that do nothing but wine throughout the entire story….

I think you meant to say whine. I myself wouldn't mind a character that continuously wined.

Lol Yeah, that's what I meant. My phone removed a letter for some strange reason!

@vidari-is-tired-in-advance March 11, 2020

Characters that do nothing but wine throughout the entire story….

I think you meant to say whine. I myself wouldn't mind a character that continuously wined.

Lol Yeah, that's what I meant. My phone removed a letter for some strange reason!

I mean, I have a character who uses constant underage drinking and partying as a coping mechanism to deal with their feelings of inadequacy and failure??? Does that count?

@Althalosian-is-the-father March 11, 2020

Maybe.

@Starfast March 11, 2020

I like 3rd person POV switches, but not 1st person ones.

I can honestly get behind either if they're done well, and I've seen both done really well and really poorly. I've noticed that 3rd person books with multiple POVs tend to be more popular though.

Also, on the subject of multiple POVs I feel like some books just don't really need more than one POV. Wonder by RJ Palacio should have been one POV. Carry On by Rainbow Rowell could have had less as well (literally if you took out every chapter from Agatha's POV the story would barely change. Her chapters were useless).

@Pickles March 11, 2020

I HATED Agatha and all her chapters. Don't even remember why. But she was awful

@vidari-is-tired-in-advance March 11, 2020

I like 3rd person POV switches, but not 1st person ones.

I can honestly get behind either if they're done well, and I've seen both done really well and really poorly. I've noticed that 3rd person books with multiple POVs tend to be more popular though.

Also, on the subject of multiple POVs I feel like some books just don't really need more than one POV. Wonder by RJ Palacio should have been one POV. Carry On by Rainbow Rowell could have had less as well (literally if you took out every chapter from Agatha's POV the story would barely change. Her chapters were useless).

I like POV switches when they’re used to explore different subplots or when the characters are separated in some way. But when it switches between characters in the same place focusing on the same events, the author had to do an amazing job giving the characters distinct voices for me to remain interested.

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